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		<description><![CDATA[I recently read The Convert: A Tale of Exile and Extremism on Maryam Jameelah. Here are links to some gripping excerpts from the book: http://www.thefridaytimes.com/22042011/page26.shtml (part 1) http://www.thefridaytimes.com/29042011/page22.shtml (part 2) http://www.deborahbaker.net/books3.htm (author Deborah Baker&#8217;s website) Let&#8217;s call Maryam Jameelah  &#8221;MJ,&#8221; and just remind yourself that I don&#8217;t mean Michael Jackson so as not to become [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=luckyfatima.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2396457&amp;post=617&amp;subd=luckyfatima&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently read <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Convert-Tale-Exile-Extremism/dp/1555975828">The Convert: A Tale of Exile and Extremism</a></em> on Maryam Jameelah.</p>
<p>Here are links to some gripping excerpts from the book:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thefridaytimes.com/22042011/page26.shtml" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.thefridaytimes.com/22042011/page26.shtml</a></p>
<p>(part 1)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thefridaytimes.com/29042011/page22.shtml" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.thefridaytimes.com/29042011/page22.shtml</a></p>
<p>(part 2)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.deborahbaker.net/books3.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.deborahbaker.net/books3.htm</a></p>
<p>(author Deborah Baker&#8217;s website)</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s call Maryam Jameelah  &#8221;MJ,&#8221; and just remind yourself that I don&#8217;t mean Michael Jackson so as not to become confused if you actually read through all of this <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>Muslim readers, just curious, how many of you have heard of her or read anything by her? If  you or your SO or family members are from Pakistan, have you/they heard of her?</strong></p>
<p>My husband had never heard of her. Neither had a handful of Muslim and Pakistani people who I asked when I started reading the book. I learned of her when I was living in Oman when a friend of mine gave me a copy of MJ&#8217;s correspondences with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abul_Ala_Maududi">Maulana Maududi</a>. My friend was an older Zanzibari lady, so she reads about Islam mostly in the English language, as do some South Asian Muslims. (Colonialism connection there.) I had been a Muslim for several years in the US before I moved to Oman, so that means that I spent years in an English speaking Muslim context without coming across Maryam Jameelah&#8217;s name or writings.</p>
<p>Upon being given the book of MJ and Maududi correspondences, I remember being fascinated by her story because she and I had something in common-namely that she and I are both Muslim converts of Jewish heritage. MJ was born in 1934 to a secular Jewish family in the NYC area, but converted to Islam and moved to Pakistan where she married and settled for the rest of her life. She was a white, Western woman who supposedly gave up a privileged American life for a strict orthodox Jamaat-e-Islami recommended austere Muslim Pakistani life. She had the potential to confirm the supremacy of the Jamaat-e-Islaami narrative by rejecting the Evillle materialism of the West in the nobler quest for the boons of the Akhirah. As an author and intellectual, she wrote in that polemic, absolutist, grandiose way (to use Baker&#8217;s terms) that neo-orthodox oriented Muslims lap up. But I think her time of relevancy was over decades ago and the author is making it seem like she is currently as influential.</p>
<p>Years ago, when I read her writing, I was quite put off. Like her mentor Maududi, she was vehemently anti-Western and her Islam was a Salafist neo-orthodox Islam. As with many Salafist oriented writings, I found myself cringing at the ridiculousness of some of the anti-Western assertions put forth as truths in her writing; I recall reading something about Western feminism being a path towards an all-female, lesbian, Amazonian style society or some such utter nonsense. I read this maybe 7-8 years ago, so I can&#8217;t remember precisely what it was that she wrote, but some of her writings are available online&#8230;I have been lazy to find where I read the Amazonian society thing because I couldn&#8217;t find it from a quick google, if anyone knows please let me know&#8230;I did find one article in which she suggests that feminism leads to lesbianism <a href="http://www.islam101.com/women/jameelah.htm">here</a>. Her thinking and her writings reflect the colonial and post-colonial times in which she grew up. I agree generally with her criticisms of Western imperialism. I think the long-lasting negative effects of colonialism are pretty clear to us today. But I disagree with her idea of &#8220;pure Islam&#8221; (which really means rigid, literalist Saudi styled Salafi Islam) as the solution to the ailments of the global Muslim Ummah.</p>
<p>Anyhow-I never gave MJ much thought after having a good eye-roll at her writing all those years ago, but after reading the above linked excerpts from the book in The Friday Times, a mix of nosiness and curiosity came over me and I had to know more about her. Maryam Jameelah is featured as one of the VIPs of modern Islam in <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Makers-Contemporary-Islam-John-Esposito/dp/0195141288">Makers of Contemporary Islam</a></em> by John Esposito. But unlike Baker suggests in her book, I have never seen MJ pamphlets in Islamic centers, and have not heard of her mentioned often, possibly not again since that time in Oman from the above mentioned friend. I think her style of anti-Western discourse is actually very passé for contemporary Western based Muslims. There are certainly some forms of anti-Western rhetoric, but MJ&#8217;s was an older anti-technology, anti-modernization ideology that equated modernization with Westernization, and while I am aware there are some fringe Salafi-oriented groups (like Tableeghi Jamaat) who still preach such things, these ideas are not broadly current among us. Clearly this discourse is still prevalent in certain circles in Pakistan, though.</p>
<p><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=eBqEBOXrEJgC&amp;pg=PA54#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false">Here</a> is a link to the MJ chapter in <em>Makers of Contemporary Islam</em>- worth a perusal if you are interested.</p>
<p>Apparently, MJ<em> is</em> a person of great importance. That is the take author Deborah Baker has. The author exposes MJ&#8217;s unusual life circumstances, and both the author and MJ are fixated on the presumed divide between Islam and The West. Baker seems to agree with MJ that the divide is ultimately unbridgeable. (I disagree, especially in our era of globalization, global inter-connection, and as a Western Muslim myself.) Baker also exposes a lot of dysfunction in MJ&#8217;s life, ultimately painting MJ as a lunatic&#8212;or perhaps she just pieces together enough evidence to prove that MJ was a lunatic. MJ was diagnosed with schizophrenia and was hospitalized several times for mental breakdowns and psychotic behavior, including a hospitalization in Lahore shortly after she arrived in Pakistan. As a reader, I felt somehow guiltily impertinent and voyeuristic during certain parts of this book, especially since MJ is still alive and residing in Lahore.</p>
<p>Baker delves into the relationship between Maulana Maududi&#8217;s and Maryam Jameelah&#8217;s writings and the War on Terror. Among the historical factors surrounding the current War on Terror situation are the neo-orthodox Salafist Islamic movements that arose as a reaction to the subjugations of colonialism and post-colonial imperialism. Thinkers like Maududi come from that climate. I do see connections between Maududi&#8217;s influence and part of the reasons why Pakistan has become religiously radicalized in some segments of society. For example, the long-lasting injustice against Ahmedi Muslims, including periodic incidents of violence committed against Ahmedi Muslims in Pakistan are connected to Maududi&#8217;s anti-Ahmedi stance. Interestingly, I learned from Baker&#8217;s book that Maududi didn&#8217;t understand the monster he created and lamented it to other elderly Jamaat-e-Islami colleagues in his later years. But all of this blasphemy law insanity, hudud ordinance injustice, and the anti-Ahmedi, anti-Ismaili-Shi&#8217;a, and anti-Shi&#8217;a rhetoric can be tied to him, not as the originator of such ideas, but as a main source of propagation due to his scale of influence. Baker takes things a step further and blames Maududi and Maryam Jameelah for 9/11. She actually blames MJ to her face and reports on MJ&#8217;s unprepared and lame response. I think that both Maududi (and MJ, if she really had such significance) have some small hand indirectly in jihadist/terrorist form of radicalization simply because the Islamist rhetorical foundations of the later extremist movements are connected to these older movements. In the same sense, so do the colonizers who created the oppressive climates that spurred these movements in the first place, right? Anyway, it is a common and irresponsible insinuation in Western rhetoric that neo-orthodox Islamist movements and extremist-terrorist movements are one and the same. I don&#8217;t think MJ ever called Muslims to attack The West, just to reject it. Some violent extremists have been influenced by Maududi&#8217;s thoughts since their version of ultra-orthodox so called &#8220;pure&#8221; Islam comes from the same Islamist theological movements, but to my knowledge, he never specifically called for Muslims to rise up and go to the West to attack people, either. As a matter of fact, as far as I know, the Jamaat-e-Islaami vision of an Islamic society is based on individual commitment to their neo-orthodox version of Islam as a logical-intellectual domino effect towards their styling of a  &#8217;Shari&#8217;ah based&#8217; society, and not on a forceful overthrow or physical attack on any establishment, Western or otherwise. So, I don&#8217;t think Baker should have gone and told a 75 year old granny that she personally caused 9/11, which is essentially what Baker did to MJ. In some ways, that seemed like a twist to make MJ&#8217;s story extra relevant and interesting to readers. I think MJ envisioned some self-sufficient, powerful &#8220;pure Islam&#8221; Shari&#8217;ah state, and saw resisting the West/Modernity as a way to achieve this, but I don&#8217;t think she advocated offensive militant jihad or offensive terrorism.</p>
<p>Anyhow, it is a fascinating book, even though it is essentially a piece of gossip that defames MJ and causes her to look like a loon. Since many of MJ&#8217;s ultra-orthodox, anti-Western premises are so disagreeable, perhaps it is a good thing to know the back story and know how deranged she was (is?) because this discredits her and her ideas. But I still feel bad for MJ because she was ultimately just a young idealist, and now just an elderly woman living in a dingy room in Lahore. Apparently, a couple of MJ&#8217;s children emigrated to the US from Pakistan as adults.</p>
<p>Though I don&#8217;t think MJ is currently as popular or important as Baker suggests, MJ is an interesting figure to learn about. Baker made a sort of peace with MJ&#8217;s story at the end, and ended up corresponding with her. As a result of the meetings between MJ and Baker, MJ produced an article in 2009 in which she condemned terrorism, the Taliban, and the destruction of girls&#8217; schools in Northern Pakistan &#8220;under the false pretext of Islam.&#8221; (p. 222-223) Baker sent MJ some magazines, and wondered in the last line of the book what other reading material she should send to MJ. Well, how about <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Progressive-Muslims-Justice-Gender-Pluralism/dp/185168316X">Progressive Muslims: Essays on Justice, Gender, and Pluralism</a></em>, or any of the books by <a href="http://scholarofthehouse.org/index.html">Dr. Khaled Abou El Fadl</a>? <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of my favorite Youtube cooking video series is Bajiascooking. Bajia has excellent videos for Pakistani/North Indian Muslim dishes. She claims her recipes are traditional and occasionally &#8216;village style,&#8217; but actually they are very Auntie-style, using the &#8216;throw it all into the pressure cooker&#8217; method of the modern urban desi home chef.  Many of her recipes [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=luckyfatima.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2396457&amp;post=609&amp;subd=luckyfatima&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my favorite Youtube cooking video series is <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Bajiascooking">Bajiascooking</a>. Bajia has excellent videos for Pakistani/North Indian Muslim dishes. She claims her recipes are traditional and occasionally &#8216;village style,&#8217; but actually they are very Auntie-style, using the &#8216;throw it all into the pressure cooker&#8217; method of the modern urban desi home chef.  Many of her recipes have worked quite well for me, and are very suitable for cooking outside of the des, as Bajia lives in Australia in a setting with no nearby desi grocer and doesn&#8217;t always have access to fresh desi cooking ingredients.  Most of Bajia&#8217;s recipes are in Urdu, but some of them have been dubbed in English with the help of her daughter. If you search Youtube for Bajia&#8217;s English you will find some good ones.</p>
<p><a href="http://luckyfatima.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/haleem.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-610" title="Haleem" src="http://luckyfatima.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/haleem.jpg?w=300&#038;h=225" alt="Haleem, not harees, and definitely not daleem" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>A few days ago, I was watching Bajia&#8217;s videos, and I decided to watch the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vumpZlvgYl8">haleem recipe</a>. Occasionally, when surfing the net on food knowledge quests, I have encountered posts on the South Asian dish haleem which encourage Urdu speakers to call haleem &#8216;daleem&#8217; since haleem is one of God&#8217;s 99 names (actually it is <em>Al Haleem</em>), and haleem is mentioned in the Quran. I came across this idea again as a comment on Bajia&#8217;s haleem recipe from a user called PaltalkRecording:</p>
<blockquote><p>Sister . Please Note : Haleeem Allah kay 99 namon main say aik name hay or Sorah Baqarah main 3 bar is ka zikar bhi hay please urud main Haleem ko DALEEM kahtay hain . JazakAllah</p></blockquote>
<p>The gist is that according to these people it is insult God by using His name in such a trivial sense, like to say &#8220;Haleem ko baghaar dena&#8221; &#8221;Haleem jal gaya&#8221; &#8220;Haleem kharaab honey walla hai, naukaron ko de do.&#8221;</p>
<p>A few posts also suggest to call it daleem or harees. Harees is an Arabic dish which is similar to haleem.  For Gulf Arabs, through whom I know harees, harees is much less seasoned dish than haleem. Harees means wheat in Arabic and it is a dish of wheat pounded with boiled meat. No doubt there is some ancient connection between harees and haleem, most likely through Persia and Central Asia.</p>
<p>If you google &#8216;haleem daleem&#8217; you will find copious posts on the topic, all condemning the use of haleem as a dish&#8217;s name. I even found one <a href="https://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=219465248444">Facebook Group dedicated to the topic</a> which is &#8220;scheduled to be archived&#8221; so may disappear in the near future. (I shamelessly pilfered my haleem picture above from them for this post&#8230;)</p>
<p>I am just curious as to whether this attempt at linguistically purging haleem as the dish name from Urdu has had any success beyond the predictable circles? (It seems to me that these circles have grown larger these days.)</p>
<p>I have never heard anyone call haleem anything other than haleem in Urdu in my presence, despite knowing some fairly dogmatic people. It sounds rather absurd to me, but then again, people prefer Allah hafiz to Khuda hafiz now-dogmatic linguistic movements can be successful. So why not haleem to daleem?</p>
<p>Also, I know there is a dish hareesa, and another dish, khichra, both of which are similar to haleem. I was just wondering if there is also some region that has a dish called daleem, or was this moniker made up simply because among the grain and legume medley in haleem there is daal (or dalia)?</p>
<p>Have you ever actually heard someone say &#8216;daleem&#8217;?</p>
<p>Someone told me that daleem means pomegranite in Bangla, so this linguistic push against haleem won&#8217;t work for Bengalis. The dish is also made in Bangladesh and is known as haleem there, too.</p>
<p>If this anti-haleem movement takes off, Shan Masala will have to produce Shahi Daleem masala or maybe angry hordes will burn down the shops. (God forbid!) Ironically, the meaning of the rich Arabic descriptor of God,  Al Haleem encompasses notions of deep tolerance and moderation.</p>
<p>I say Khuda Hafiz instead of Allah Hafiz on purpose, since I think the Allah versus Khuda issue is silly. I will most defintely stick to calling haleem &#8216;haleem&#8217; and never &#8216;daleem&#8217; even if the new term does gain popularity.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the pardesi+desi and gora/gori+desi online community, baby names are always a fun topic. The baby name topic is also an issue for second generation desi Americans and Muslim Americans as well. I am very interested etymology and language, so it is a topic of interest for me. Here is an excerpt from a convo [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=luckyfatima.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2396457&amp;post=595&amp;subd=luckyfatima&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the pardesi+desi and gora/gori+desi online community, baby names are always a fun topic. The baby name topic is also an issue for second generation desi Americans and Muslim Americans as well. I am very interested etymology and language, so it is a topic of interest for me.</p>
<p>Here is an excerpt from a convo with a friend-We were talking about class and baby names&#8212;like how upper middle class desis of various ethno-religious backgrounds have their preferred equivalents of names like Emma, Hannah, and Madison. For Americans, think of Gertrude, Mildred, Twyla Jean, Nakisha, or Starr, and how in the USA names carry some message of age, class, rural versus urban, or might be associated with a race or ethnic US subculture.</p>
<p>In convos with desi+pardesi couple friends, such issues come up- A white American Christian background friend married into a Jain Indian family says:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;The class thing comes out in other ways too…for instance, I have a running &#8220;future baby name&#8221; list, and my husband nixed many of them because they sounded &#8220;like servants&#8217; names&#8221; or &#8220;too old-fashioned.&#8221; I guess we&#8217;ll end up with the trendy babies&#8217; names of India then…I wonder what the &#8220;Madison&#8221; and &#8220;Aidan&#8221; of India would be, heh.&#8221;</p>
<p>I said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Actually there absolutely <em>are</em> Madison and Aidan in both Hindu and Muslim desi flavor of the year names. I love names like Jahanara or Dilara but these sound like &#8220;servant names&#8221; or &#8220;old lady names&#8221; to people of my husband&#8217;s particular background. &#8220;</p>
<p>EASY-FOR-GORA NAMES: I have had this discussion online and &#8216;in real life&#8217; with friends, too, but about Muslim names. We have our own considerations as individuals, and one in particular for me when I was pregnant and name-hunting was that I wanted something that wasn&#8217;t too hard for people unfamiliar with Muslim names to pronounce, but which had a good Arabic/Islamic meaning. (Being from Texas, the name had to sound okay in Spanish, too <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  no Suda, no Maimona, etc. )</p>
<p>Are you in an interfaith relationship with a Muslim? Is your significant other trying to convince you to choose a &#8220;Muslim name&#8221; for your baby?  Technically, there is no such thing as a Muslim name. However, names carry the message of what community one belongs to, so people tend to like names that reflect their community. If you come from a mainstream or majority group in your society, you may have never thought much about it. But name choice is a very important identity marker and part of affirming and celebrating one&#8217;s identity for religious and ethnic minorities.  I said that there is no such thing as a Muslim name. What do I mean? By &#8216;no such thing as a Muslim name,&#8217; I mean that many Christian Arabs have Arabic origin names, and people in many other countries from Iran to Indonesia have modern concocted names or names from other sources, like Adelina or Nurgeisha in Central Asia. Or pre-Islamic indigenous names like Bahram or Maneezheh in Iran, or Watri in Indonesia. These people are all Muslims. Dave Chappelle is a perfectly Muslim name. A name doesn&#8217;t have to be Arabic, Turkish, or Persian origin to be a &#8220;Muslim name,&#8221; although that is usually what is meant by &#8220;Muslim name.&#8221; And once again, Muslims don&#8217;t &#8216;own&#8217; Persio-Arabic names. In India (and Pakistan, which also has a small Parsi community), Parsis have names which are Persian origin. Sometimes we know that a person is Parsi by seeing their full name, such as something plus-walla as a surname. (Some Muslims also have -walla surnames, too.) But often Parsi name choices overlap with Persian name choices of Muslims.  I have observed that some Sikhs also have Arabic or Persian origin names like Iqbal or Daler. So one will find Christian, Parsis, Sikhs, and others with names of  Arabic or Persian origin. Muslims don&#8217;t &#8220;own&#8221; these names.</p>
<p>Once, a friend and I were discussing Muslim baby name choices. She is white-Christian American and her husband is a Pakistani Muslim. She noted that to her ears, many of the Muslim male names she saw &#8220;sounded Black.&#8221;  We are socialized to read names as identity markers, as I discussed above with the examples of Gertrude and Twyla Jean. I have looked at boys&#8217; Arabic names and it has occurred to me that a name &#8220;sounds Black&#8221; as well. This thought process led me to a quick check of white privilege and what a name &#8220;sounding black&#8221; means in my culture in terms of racism and intolerance coming from the mainstream white culture. Names are so rich in meaning, markedness, and connotation and a name &#8220;sounding black&#8221; or &#8220;seeming Muslim&#8221; has a lot of cultural implications, including many negative ones due to racism in our US culture. African American sounding names, as well as &#8216;foreign sounding&#8217; names are stigmatized in mainstream white culture. That brings up the reality that what your name is does have an effect on your future. There are multiple studies that show that having a name associated with African Americans or which sounds Asian get less call backs for jobs in the US and Canada. See <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/14577725/Are-Emily-and-Greg-More-Employable-than-Lakisha-and-Jamal-A-Field-Experiment-on-Labor-Market-Discrimination-by-Marianne-Bertrand-and-Sendhil-Mull" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090522/resume_english_090523/20090523/?hub=TorontoNewHome" target="_blank">here</a> for some support for that claim. I think it is sad that people should fear affirming their child&#8217;s ethnic, religious, or racial identity by giving them a distinct, non-white sounding name. We as parents make choices that will deeply affect our children&#8217;s lives, names being a major one. Some US communities of color have been compelled to have legal &#8216;American names&#8217; in addition to ethnic names used at home. Many children of color with foreign sounding names elect to use shortened nick-names or select an &#8216;American name.&#8217; For us white Americans, when considering these issues as a partner in a desi+pardesi relationship, it also becomes a question of white privilege and whether we will give in to structures of white privilege and avoid marked names. Are we hoping to perpetuate some form of white privilege for our multiracial children of color? It&#8217;s very complicated. If I give my child a &#8216;Muslim name&#8217; that is more aesthetically pleasing for the mainstream white culture,  hence less likely to elicit grade-school teasing, am I<em> still</em> playing into the wrong side of things just the same as avoiding a Muslim name altogether and going for a mainstream &#8220;white name&#8217;? I realize that many of the Muslim names that I personally like sound better to me than others because I have been socialized in white American culture to find certain sounds more aesthetically pleasing, while others sound awkward to me even though they have beautiful Arabic meanings. Names are so very complex. I do feel that I have opted for names that are aesthetically pleasing in my native culture while simultaneously Muslim for a variety of complicated reasons.</p>
<p>Since we are talking about desi+pardesi couples and names, let&#8217;s look at Hindu names. It might be the same that desi-pardesi Hindu Indian affiliated couples would want a sound Sanskrit origin name that is &#8216;easy&#8217; on the ears for non-desis so that  kids don&#8217;t get teased or have names that the non-desis can say.</p>
<p>Take note that just like it is problematic to say &#8216;American name&#8217;: George Joseph, Balbir Chauhan, Shehpar Humayun, and Jose D&#8217; Souza are all equally Indian names. These are baby name quests for a Hindu name or Sanskrit origin name, <em>not</em> a Hindi name, and<em> not</em> an &#8216;Indian name&#8217; as Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs, and others are also legitimately Indians with Indian names, just not always necessarily Sanskrit origin or Hindu names, depending on the community. So you are looking for a Hindu Sanskrit origin name, not an Indian name. Your significant other is rejecting names for sounding like a maid&#8217;s name, or &#8220;old fashioned,&#8221; or too something or another. And beyond that, you get to know that some Hindu names sound very stereotypically Bengali or Gujarati or Tamil Brahmin or whatever. It is a lot to consider.</p>
<p>I can imagine some people might be confused as to why I would mix Sanskrit origin names and Muslim names in the same post, but all I can say is that in in my experience some of the same topics come up for all of us. Not to mention, that I have noticed that some Indian baby name books and websites have Hindu and Muslim baby names mixed together. A non-desi friend who is married to an Indian Hindu told me that all of the names she liked from one such baby name website were rejected by her husband because they were Muslim names. I suppose the website author just presumed that Hindu and Muslim Indians would know the difference automatically, but it wasn&#8217;t considered that some pardesi who is less familiar with such things might be perusing the site. I really don&#8217;t know that much about names from other religious communities but I wonder what issues come up for Sikh-American and also desi+pardesi Sikh affiliated American couples, though.</p>
<p>Desi American Muslim couples, as well as couples in interracial marriages where one parent is non-desi and non-Muslim, tend to all have some common names that they use: like Zain, Rayaan, Ayaan, and Adam for boys and Sara, Laila, Yasmine, and Aliya  for girls. I would bet a lot of money that there are similar issue for Hindu Americans and mixed Hindu desi+non-desi couples and there are probably some names that a lot of people in the US use. (Neel, Jay, Anjali, etc)</p>
<p>This website that mentions some popular US Hindu names.</p>
<p><a href="http://hinduism.about.com/b/2005/06/05/most-popular-indian-baby-names-in-us.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://hinduism.about.com/b/2005/06/05/most-popular-indian-baby-names-in-us.htm</a></p>
<p>This website that has it&#8217;s own filter for &#8220;easy-for-gora&#8221; names:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.indiaparenting.com/names/homepage.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.indiaparenting.com/names/homepage.htm</a></p>
<p>I can tell you some &#8216;trendy&#8217; Hindu names after discussing with a friend: stuff with -aan in it is popular for boys and girls (interestingly also same in Pakistan these days) so for boys: Amaan, Yuvaan, Vivaan, Ayaan and also Aryan, Aman (short -a-, not aan), Saamir, Aditya. For girls: Anya (BIG trendy name) Aryana, (interestingly both Anya and Aryanah are trendy in Pakistan but with the Arabic and Persian meanings taken) Vivyah, Vanya, Riya, Siya, Diya, Rashi. You could have a look at some baby name websites to check the meaning of these names.</p>
<p>Friends, may I suggest that you purchase a comprehensive book of Hindu babynames, though, because one thing I have found about researching baby names online (I have had two kids in the past 3 years) is that <em>there are a lot of mistakes in baby name website name meanings because they are made by non-specialists (no linguistic background), sometimes randomly user-added, and sometimes the same mistake is copied from website to website</em>. If you are interested in a name you see online and want to confirm its Sanskrit meaning, you can aske here at the <a href="http://forum.wordreference.com/forumdisplay.php?f=99">Word Reference forums Indo-Iranian language section</a> or consult a Sanskrit dictionary or Hindu baby name book.</p>
<p>I have read multiple online discussions of non-desi partners who want a mainstream American name while their significant others want a Hindu or Muslim name. I understand why the significant others desire names from their own communities as religious minorities in the US, and how it represents their culture and background and re-affirms identity. No one should be *forced* to name their kid something when they don&#8217;t want to. I hope any couples going through this can reach a compromise.</p>
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<p>A list of Pakistani Muslim-American girls names beyond Leila and Yasmine:</p>
<p>A few words on Pakistani names-Pakistani Muslims tend to take names from Turkish, Persian, and Arabic (mainly the two latter). An exception to this would be Pashtoons who also use Pashto origin names. There is no such thing as a &#8216;Pakistani name,&#8217; anymore than there is an American name or Indian name since Pakistan is also multi-ethnic and a home to people of diverse faiths. However, I have compiled this list and over the years I have shared it with a few friends who were either desi Muslim American or married to one and looking for a desirably sound  Muslim girl&#8217;s name that was &#8216;okay for the goras&#8217; to pronounce:</p>
<p>All are Arabic unless indicated as other. You can leave the ‘h’ off of the ending of any of these names, it is just to be closer to the Arabic spelling that many people leave it on. Some of these names would have an -at ending in Urdu, while they have an -ah ending in Arabic (ta marboota). It is up to you which pronunciation to take, but it seems the -ah Arabic endings are more popular in Muslim-American communities.</p>
<p>There is no standardized way to transliterate Arabic or Persian into English orthography, so some variation on spelling is possible. In some cases, variation on pronunciation is also possible based on whether one takes the Arabic versus the desi pronunciation.</p>
<p>Meanings are confirmed from <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Book-Muslim-Parsi-Names/dp/0143031848">The Complete Book of Muslim and Parsi Names by Maneka Gandhi and Ozair Husain</a>. (Don&#8217;t trust unsourced babyname website meanings!!!) Please let me know if you find an error in the meanings.</p>
<p>Aida: saffron<br />
Aliyah: high, exalted, feminine of Ali, (my daughter is Alayah, the diminutive of this)<br />
Amani : uh-maan-ee pl. of hope<br />
Amara: uh-maa-ruh a sign<br />
Amber/Ambreen/Ambreen: amber<br />
Amina: trust worthy, one with iman<br />
Ammara: uh-maa-ruh: tolerant<br />
Anayah: uh-naa-yuh (in Urdu this becomes Inaayat, but you can use the Arabic pronunciation): help from God, grace, bounty from God. This is actually popular in Pakistan right now as a girl’s name.<br />
Anisah: uh-nee-suh companion/friend</p>
<p>Aania /Anya(aahn-nee-yuh): She that has achieved her ambition/aspiration(the highest goal).</p>
<p>Ariana/Aryana: aa-ree-aa-nuh, (Farsi name) pure, it is related to the word Aryan, as in the nation of Iran and the root of the word Ireland, it is a proto-European word. This name is also popular in Pakistan right now. It is the name of the Afghan airlines. It sounds close to the word for naked in some dialects of Arabic, as some  Arabs will tell you, but the real Arabic word is ‘uryaanah, not Ariana anyway. The word Uryaan exists meaning &#8216;naked&#8217; in litererary Urdu, too.</p>
<p>Dalia: dahlia the flower</p>
<p>Daniya: close or near (Arabic), giver (Old Persian)<br />
Daria: daa-ree-yuh: learned, knowledgeable<br />
Dara: daa-raa, halo (This is an Arabic meaning, but if you take the Persian meaning it becomes a boy&#8217;s name)<br />
Farah: furr-uh, not Fae-ruh as in English: joy<br />
Faria/Fariah: faa-ree-yuh: tall<br />
Haniyah: haa-nee-yuh: a young maid<br />
Hina: Hinn-nuh: henna, mehndi<br />
Jennah: Paradise, Heaven. This is said as jinnat/jennut in Urdu, but you can just use the Arabic pronunciation which sounds like the English name Jenna.<br />
Layla: night (this is considered a bad meaning by Pakistanis, though)<br />
Linah: soft, gentle, also spelled Lena<br />
Liyah: pure white, morning<br />
Liyaan: lee-yawn: gentleness<br />
LujaneLujain: loo-jane, silver<br />
Marjaan/Marjaana: coral (I love this name, it is mentioned in the Quran, but it sounds like die-life or die in Urdu.<br />
Maria/Maaria/Mariya/Mariah/Mariyah: maa-ri-uh (note the stress is on the first syllable, not as in Spanish): a type of bird, fair complexioned, the Christian wife of the Prophet pbuh. Popular in Pakistan right now, also sounds close to the Italian and Spanish names to Americans<br />
Maya: means like wealth or capital in Farsi (and in Urdu, like sar-o-maya) it is also a note on the Persio-Arabic musical scale. (It has the Sanskrit meaning illusion, as well)<br />
Mina: mee-nuh: Farsi. a type of enamel used to decorate gold. This is a well known style of desi gold design, you can google meena/mina meena kaam or meena kari for pictures.<br />
Muna/Mona: muh-nuh: a wish or desire<br />
Naila/Nayla: nigh-luh: a winner, achiever<br />
Niyah: knee-yuh: vow, intention (this is niyyat in Urdu) It might be bothersome to some to not use double /y/ when spelling this name in English, but I could even see it as Nia.<br />
Nolah/Naulah: Largesse, a gift, a kiss<br />
Naurah: no-ruh: a blossom<br />
Nura/Nora: Light, illumination<br />
Rasinah: of good character<br />
Razaan: ruh-zawn: a modest woman, calm, composed<br />
Razeen/Razine: ruh-zeen: same meaning as above<br />
Sabrine: suh-breen patient<br />
Sabria/Sabriyya/Sabriya: suh-bree-yuh: patient<br />
Sakeena: suh-kee-nuh: calm, peaceful<br />
Samina: suh-mee-nuh valuable, expensive,another common mixed couple name<br />
Samira: suh-mee-ruh one who converses by moonlight, another mixed couple name<br />
Sara: saa-ruh, This one actually has multiple meanings-a shawl and a princess in Arabic, a star in Persian, another mixed couple common one; it means princess in Hebrew, too.<br />
Soraya: the stars (the Pleides)<br />
Tamara: tumm-aa-ruh, female date seller,<br />
Talia: taa-lee-yuh: stress on first syllable, start, outset, beginning, like the Mexican singer<br />
Tara: taa-ruh Persian and Urdu: star<br />
Yasmin: yuss-meen: jasmine, always a crowd pleaser with the mixed couples<br />
Zaina: zane-uh: beautiful<br />
Zeenah/Zina: zee-nuh: adornment, this is zeenat in Urdu</p>
<p>For boys I have no list, but I like Aliyaan (twice sublime), Ayaan (leaders), Junaid (I know, so 80s, but it is a great name)…it is the diminutive of the Arabic for soldier), Firaas (horseman), Jaid (sounds like Jade and from the Arabic word for good) and then there are the mixed couple classics: Adam, Rayaan, Zain which are great!!! I also love Tai (obedient).</p>
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		<title>Next Goal: Telugu</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 19:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WordPress tells me that it has been over three months since I last posted. I have been busy and in another transitional period with the Texas-Virginia move, so I haven&#8217;t felt like blogging.  I am just waiting right now for my pressure cooker lid to fall in, so I will try to write a post [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=luckyfatima.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2396457&amp;post=585&amp;subd=luckyfatima&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WordPress tells me that it has been over three months since I last posted. I have been busy and in another transitional period with the Texas-Virginia move, so I haven&#8217;t felt like blogging.  I am just waiting right now for my pressure cooker lid to fall in, so I will try to write a post now as I sit in wait.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t feel much like blogging last year when we were getting ready to leave Dubai. Subhanallah, it has been well over a year that I have been back in the US. My husband left Texas for the DC area to start his new job in late June, and my daughters and I followed him in August. We would have joined him sooner, but we had to wait for the apartment we had selected to be ready. So, I got more play time with my family in Texas, alhamdulillah.</p>
<p>Now, I am in Novastan. I quite like it here, alhamdulillah. There is a huge and diverse Muslim community here. It is A LOT easier to be in public in hijab here, thank God. In Austin it was very challenging due to all of the stares. Here, there are many hijab wearing women everywhere, and they seem to be working in major stores like Walmart, Target, the grocery stores, and all. So it is a regular sight here and not something that draws too much attention. In Austin, it was also hard to go out with my parents because people would stare even harder at our interfaith family as if to say &#8220;Oh my, golly garsh, I would be so embarrassed if my daughter ever went and married one of them men and came home to me wearing that thing on her head&#8230;&#8221; but then again, maybe that is all in my own head and no one was really thinking that at all. Stares and visible discomfort, though mostly stiff uncomfortable friendliness and politeness, were a common reaction to me.  My whole family is great about it and it never bothered a single one of them at all to be out with me in public (well, except for my 90 year old grandmother, but hey, she&#8217;s 90 mashallah), and I realize that I am lucky that way because I have other friends who really get hell from their own relatives about hijab.</p>
<p>So, out here in Novastan I have a lot of options for Muslim worship, including a more progressive oriented community, which is refreshing coming from the Arabian Gulf where in order to be considered &#8220;religious,&#8221; you have to wear all black and cover everything but just one eye to see the way and pray in the darkest corner of your house. Any inclination to pray at mosques in a mixed gender musallah where you could actually SEE the imam or khateeb, while indisputably the Sunnah arrangement of a mosque, was just unthinkable. But here I have it much better. One of the many reasons I like being a practicing Muslim better in North America than in the Arabian Gulf.</p>
<p>There are also a lot of other things I like here: greenery (I like walking on trails), Muslim mommy meet ups, Hindi/Urdu language practice groups, and&#8230;I have an Andhra style dosa place right outside of our apartment complex where I can go and get my dosa fix. No, it isn&#8217;t my precious Saravana Bhavan by Lamcy Plaza, but it is crispy (though a bit oily), spicy, and good. Actually, my apartment complex is filled with Telugu speaking people. All my neighbors above and below are from Andhra/Telengana. It seems that there is quite a large Andhra community here. I should learn Telugu.</p>
<p>I also met a Sindhi Auntie who is visiting her daughter from Pune for a few months here in my apartment complex, and who I chit chat with while her grandchildren and my kids play on the apartment complex playground. She brought me a sample of some kind of Maharashtrian fresh green chile and garlic chutney that she made the other day. This place is really starting to feel like Dubai, all Indian neighbors and aunties bringing me samples of delicious things to eat!  I also met a white Australian lady who is married to a Bengali. She is a Hindu convert and she introduced herself with a Sanskrit name, and even though we have chosen different paths I feel we have quite a bit in common as someone who has changed my name to Fatima. When I talk to her about my life and travels, I don&#8217;t have to explain every single thing to her. Interestingly, she has a brother who converted to Islam. He is married to a Malay lady. For some reason, a lot of Western male converts seem to be married to Malay or Indonesian women, I have noticed. Last, I met an  Andhra lady from Hyderabad who is very nice to talk to. She told me &#8220;Oh, I have lots of Muslim friends back home, and when I talk to them,&#8221; &#8230;she points to the group of Andhra aunties standing nearby in a circle next to the play area&#8230; &#8220;they say, your Telugu is half Urdu!&#8221; I peeked at some online Telugu learning resources out of curiosity, and I saw that there were a lot of Sanskrit as well as Persio-Arabic words in it, so although it was Greek to me, I could pick out some words I recognized from the sample sentences&#8230;so I guess Hyderabadi Telugu is very Urdu-influenced??? She also told me her roommate in college was a girl named Ayesha who is still her best friend. I get it, she has to show me that she is friendly with Muslims and doesn&#8217;t have any issues with making a friendship with me. I held back from telling her the same thing back-&#8221;Oh, in Dubai I had sooo many Hindu friends, I lurve pure vegetarians and they lurve me back, yippee! Some of my best friends are&#8230;blah blah blah.&#8221; I did tell her that my husband has relatives living in Hyderabad and he has been there before, but let my actions and personality let her know that I am totally open to friendships with anyone and everyone. Anyway, I am an American, not an Indian Muslim, so I don&#8217;t count when it comes to these sensitive issues, and I have the option to brush this stuff off. She is very nice though and we have good conversations. I am thinking about asking her to take exercise walks with me, since she seems like she might be game. I walked almost every day for the whole year in Texas, but sadly have only been out walking one single time here.</p>
<p>We have settled into are apartment nicely, and we are just missing some pieces of furniture and some things that will finally make our new home complete, but mostly everything is set up. I still have to take care of some special vehicle registration stuff and get new license plates. I did get a new driving license, so one thing down, two more to go!</p>
<p>Well, *pop* there goes the lid to my handy old pressure cooker. Off I must run!</p>
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		<title>New pastures</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 03:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Inshallah we will be leaving Texas and moving to the DC Area soon. Northern Virginia, or Novastan as I have heard it called. So, in November DH turned down the Great Lakes job. In December he got an offer in Dallas and we were like, alhamdulillah. But then they stalled on sending out the contract, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=luckyfatima.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2396457&amp;post=575&amp;subd=luckyfatima&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inshallah we will be leaving Texas and moving to the DC Area soon. Northern Virginia, or Novastan <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  as I have heard it called. So, in November DH turned down the Great Lakes job. In December he got an offer in Dallas and we were like, alhamdulillah. But then they stalled on sending out the contract, Christmas and New Years came and went, and right after New Years they told him that his position had not been approved in the budget. That was a big disappointment. Then there was a lull. DH kept on having regular phone interviews, but nothing progressed. For months. At some point, a company in the Kansas City area got very interested, but that didn&#8217;t pan out either. So we sat in wait. Each company scheduled their second and third interviews weeks apart, and the interview and feedback cycle is so slow. Finally, an opportunity that had come up in March ended up in the final stage of interviews. He flew out for the face-to-face interview this week, and today, they made the offer. Perhaps I shouldn&#8217;t jinx things because there has been no contract signed yet. But, a renege on the contract couldn&#8217;t happen twice, right? Right? Am I tempting fate by writing this out? Anyhow, three job opportunities actually came up together at once, and this was the one DH like the best. So we should be moving next month. It has been 11 months since we arrived.</p>
<p>I knew that this was coming for a few weeks. The DC area was one of the places that I had in my mind as very desirable. Everything I wanted in a place to move is there. I cried immediately when my husband told me he accepted the offer, though. I have just felt so comfortable here at my parents&#8217; house. My kids have had such a great time and have grown so close to my parents and my brothers and sister. It is making me tear up to type that out. I was hoping we would be in Austin, Houston, or Dallas. I love Texas in the irrational and patriotic way that a person loves home. I wanted to be in Texas. I was hoping we could be close enough to at least visit my parents on weekends. Looks like it&#8217;s gonna be once or twice a year. But that&#8217;s okay. I will always remember this time with my little daughters at my parents&#8217; house as a very special and blessed time. We had so much fun.</p>
<p>So, off to new pastures we go, saying bismillah&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Masala: I bought the Tablefare Spicecare system</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 19:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I ordered the Tablefare Spicecare system.  Let me use it for a some time and give some more feedback. But here are some initial thoughts in the meanwhile: It is beautiful. It looks like something you would see on Star Trek&#8212; it is mod, clean, and sleek. It creates an aesthetic of spice efficiency instead of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=luckyfatima.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2396457&amp;post=561&amp;subd=luckyfatima&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ordered the <a href="http://www.tablefare.com/">Tablefare Spicecare system</a>.  Let me use it for a some time and give some more feedback. But here are some initial thoughts in the meanwhile:</p>
<p>It is beautiful. It looks like something you would see on Star Trek&#8212; it is mod, clean, and sleek. It creates an aesthetic of spice efficiency instead of masala-jumble chaos. I am now organized. I put it on a lazy susan on my counter top<a href="http://www.tablefare.com/video/"> like in the video</a>. In addition to my unmixed spices, I happily emptied my most frequently used pre-made masalas into the Spicecare jars. No more awkward, rubber-band sealed baggies in opened boxes of Shan Qorma, Shan Curry Powder, MDH Kitchen King Masala, Shan Chhola Masala, and Shan Sindhi Biriani&#8212;you fellow desi-food home cooks know what I mean. They all have a home now.</p>
<p>I utilized the full 45 labels on Tablefare&#8217;s free downloadable <a href="http://www.tablefare.com/tools/labelmaker/">label maker</a>. I cook mostly Indo-Pakistani food, but also lots of other types of food, so I have a lot of various types of seasonings. The label maker is great because I can write the spices&#8217; names however I want. The kit also came with some labels that can be written on, plus some pre-printed labels of commonly used spices.</p>
<p>Some drawbacks:</p>
<p>The screens for shaking spices are really tricky to attach. I already bent one up. I don&#8217;t like them.</p>
<p>There are too many smallest-size containers for my personal cooking needs. I keep most spices in larger quantities than what would fit in the smallest jars. I will have to order some more medium and large jars. For my usage, I will probably only utilize the smallest containers for the certain things that must be ground in tiny quantities and used quickly since they rapidly lose their perfume, such as ground green cardamom, ground fennel, etc. The smallest-size containers are also good for special masala blends that I do in very tiny quantities for specific dishes. I will probably end up re-purposing some of the tiny sized containers or giving them to my mom, though.</p>
<p>Also, my wide round tablespoon is too fat to get inside the rimmed lid. I will keep an eye out for a slim tablespoon, and just use a regular baby spoon in the meanwhile . (I usually use a baby spoon anyway, but sometimes one need to be precise.)</p>
<p>In the future, I hope they make extra large jars for lentils. The largest jars are not large enough for typical lentil quantities. I hadn&#8217;t expected them to be, but just in case anyone from Tablefare ever reads this: larger jars would be a good idea for product expansion. I keep my lentils in tupperware in a drawer anyway, but if Tablefare sold extra large ones (like liter sized) I might buy it to be matchy-matchy and efficient, as the pie shape would allow for compact sideways storage with less fumbling than my current tupperware.</p>
<p>Purists will be disappointed that the Spicecare jars are plastic, not glass. Plastic is fine for me because I had plastic jars from the 99cents store before I got the system, and it has never been a problem. I get through spices fast enough, so I have had no issues with plastic causing spice staleness, and only the turmeric and red chile powder jars have ever gotten stained. The Spicecare plastic is a higher quality than my old plastic jars, so we&#8217;ll see if that staining happens with them, too.</p>
<p>Anyway, I am thus far happy with my purchase, and I get this sense of kitchen sophistication and spicy delight when I look at my Spicecare system. No more climbing on a kitchen step stool to fumble for my spices.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 02:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Monday my parents are having a Passover seder at my house. (We are still living with my parents, FYI) I didn&#8217;t let my kids celebrate Christmas and I don&#8217;t plan on doing anything for Easter, and I don&#8217;t want them to have to sit there for the seder, either. (We did Halloween, but I consider [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=luckyfatima.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2396457&amp;post=554&amp;subd=luckyfatima&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Monday my parents are having a Passover <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover_Seder">seder</a> at my house. (We are still living with my parents, FYI) I didn&#8217;t let my kids celebrate Christmas and I don&#8217;t plan on doing anything for Easter, and I don&#8217;t want them to have to sit there for the seder, either. (We did Halloween, but I consider that a secular American cultural holiday despite it&#8217;s pagan roots.) I told my husband that we should plan to go out that evening so that we won&#8217;t disturb my family. He was like &#8220;What&#8217;s a seder?&#8221; I had no way to describe it. &#8220;Um, they just sit there at the dinner table and read prayers and eat stuff.&#8221; I said. Husband looked perplexed. My family seems to be very focused on eating stuff. All of our social activities are about food. I want to tell him that the seder is a religious thing, not just like a regular meal. We don&#8217;t have any similar concept in Muslim worship, so I can&#8217;t think of a parallel to use to describe it.  &#8221;I mean, it is the celebration of Moses liberating the enslaved Jews from Pharaoh and leading them out of Egypt to Israel. Each food has a significance. It&#8217;s not like they just order a pizza or something.&#8221;  &#8221;There is unleavened bread (matzah) because the Jews had very short notice that they would be leaving Egypt the night they left and they had no time to wait to bake bread that would rise, so they had to take unleavened bread with them. So observant Jews don&#8217;t eat leavened bread during the Passover period. And there will be a chicken bone, hard boiled eggs, salt water, parsley, charoset (walnuts, apples, and cinnamon sweet stuff), and maybe some other stuff. The salt water is the tears of the Jews and they will dip stuff into it.&#8221; (Husband is just listening.)  &#8221;It&#8217;s gonna take a really long time. So we should be gone for like 3-4 hours.&#8221; (That may be an exaggeration.) My husband likes long boring orthodox religious stuff. He finds Jewish rituals very fascinating, too. My dad has a lot of books on Jewish life and Jewish history, and my husband spends time reading them. He&#8217;s not really interested in Christian holidays or Christianity. Anyway, now he wants to attend the seder. Maybe I will help my mom out and cook everything for the seder since she will be working that day. I dunno. It&#8217;s so fun and multi-culti living in and interfaith family. Well, anyway,  I&#8217;ll be having some matzah ball soup. I haven&#8217;t eaten that in like over a decade. During my childhood my dad always made matzah eggs when we had matzah in the house, too. It is like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migas">migas</a> with matzah instead of totopos. I can&#8217;t wait for that, either.</p>
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		<title>Where&#8217;s Your Masala at? Masala Storage</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 14:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I should really post this on my food blog, but I don&#8217;t get as much traffic there (and don&#8217;t post very often&#8212;maybe I will cross post this), and I wanted some feedback: I have been eyeballing this pricy Tablefare SpiceCare Interlocking spice storage system for a while, but haven&#8217;t found any in depth unaffiliated reviews of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=luckyfatima.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2396457&amp;post=544&amp;subd=luckyfatima&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should really post this on <a href="http://usgorikakhana.blogspot.com/">my food blog</a>, but I don&#8217;t get as much traffic there (and don&#8217;t post very often&#8212;maybe I will cross post this), and I wanted some feedback:</p>
<p>I have been eyeballing this pricy <a href="http://www.tablefare.com/">Tablefare SpiceCare</a> Interlocking spice storage system for a while, but haven&#8217;t found any in depth unaffiliated reviews of the product. I asked about it on my favorite foodie website, <a href="http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/773596">Chowhound</a>, but no one responded to my query. It looks great, though. I am afraid it will cause fumbling and I will have to unlock a lot of stuff all at once to get out a few spices. The SpiceCare thingy was recommended by Chef Bosco Pereira on twitter (<a href="http://twitter.com/#!/Chef_Bosco">@Chef_Bosco</a>), so that&#8217;s how I found out about it, and I trust what Chef Bosco says a lot. (His tweet soliloquies on South and South East Asian food are awesome. His food-knowledge is as vast as the Seven Seas!) But I&#8217;d still like to read some feedback on the product before investing in it.</p>
<p>In my daily cooking, I usually cook the typical dishes of my husband&#8217;s particular community. For those dishes, I keep the fast moving standard every-dish spices in a <a href="http://pictures.smashits.com/masala-dabba-wikipedia.html">masala dabba</a>.  Spices I use less frequently are in clear plastic jars with lids (the little jars are about 16 oz in size, I&#8217;d say). They are just all stuffed in the cupboard. There are some I keep at the front of the cupboard, but I step up on a step-stool to dig around for others. I have a friend who keeps all of her spices in a clear plastic jars but keeps the jars in clear plastic stackable storage drawers so the spices are easy to see and take out. Awesome idea! But never got around to doing that. I should really do that, I suppose.</p>
<div>The spices I purchase usually come in large plastic baggies. Here is what I do with the plastic spice baggies: If it is a fast moving spice for me like red chile powder or cumin, I pour some in a plastic jar, some in the masala dabba cup, and then use the tiny bit left over in the baggie first. If it is a very slow moving spice, I pour it into the plastic container, and I toss out the few tablespoons which are left over at the bottom of the baggie because I know it will go stale before I use it all. It is a waste, I know, but I buy the spices cheaply at the Indian market, so no worries. Before I started tossing them out, I kept the left over amount in its baggie closed with a rubber band, but it would just sit in my cupboard for ages and I would end up throwing it away anyway. For Shan masalas, I mostly use only a couple of teaspoons at a time, so I keep them in the boxes in which they come. For rice and chapati ata, I have them in giant clear plastic locking storage boxes, and for daals, I have them in one drawer in medium sized lockable clear plastic bins.</div>
<div>What about you? If you are a spicy home cook, how do you store your masalas? Any recommendations?</div>
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		<title>Language Learning Myths</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. You can learn a language just by being close to a speaker of that language. No, language is not learned by osmosis or caught like the flu. But if you learn to speak the language a bit, you will certainly improve by having someone to practice with on a daily basis. Also, partners and friends [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=luckyfatima.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2396457&amp;post=539&amp;subd=luckyfatima&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. <strong><em>You can learn a language just by being close to a speaker of that language.</em></strong> No, language is not learned by osmosis or caught like the flu. But if you learn to speak the language a bit, you will certainly improve by having someone to practice with on a daily basis. Also, partners and friends don’t always like to feel like language teachers or dictionaries, so be careful about that. Thirdly, partners and friends may speak the target language but they are not trained to teach the language so they don’t know necessarily how to give grammar explanations. You can’t explain things about English either unless you have studied pedagogical grammar or naturally have a grammarian&#8217;s mind. Why do you say some plurals with –s (cats) and some with –z (dogs) when they are both spelled with “s”? When should you use “She went” versus “She had gone,” what tenses are these, and how do you form these tenses? When do you use “since” versus “ago”? You probably have no clue. When you ask people why they say what they say, you will be answered by “I don’t know, that’s just what we say.” Questions should be directed at other people who have learned the language as a foreigner or at trained language teachers. Lastly, native speakers have a lot of folk beliefs about their languages, which are not actually true from a linguistic perspective. (We native English speakers have plenty, too.) Be wary of this. Do not trust people to teach you the language just because they speak it as natives. They can help you a lot, but they don’t always know what they are talking about.</p>
<p>2. <strong><em>You can learn a language by watching movies or TV in that language, especially with subtitles.</em></strong> If that were true, all you would need to do would be watch movies. Remember Madison, the mermaid in Splash (Tom Hanks and Daryl Hannah)? Madison learned English from TV. But actually, only mermaids can do that. If you are a mortal, you won’t learn anything. You’ll just be frustrated by your inability to follow. However, if you already speak a bit of the language, you can improve by watching movies and TV programs. But you have to make a conscious and active effort to get the most out of the TV as a language-learning tool. If you have a movie on DVD or video, you can choose a segment of it and use that part as learning material. For example, choose a scene and watch it twice. Try to explain the main idea of the scene. Note important new vocabulary. Write things down or you won’t remember them. Whatever you use, books, movies, or TV, you have to use them actively.</p>
<p>3. <strong><em>You should use children’s books to help you learn a language.</em></strong> While the language in children’s books is simpler than other texts, children’s books are actually quite inappropriate for adult second language learners. They are riddled with words like bunny, snuggle, fluffy, booboo, and other vocabulary words that are well known by native speaker children, but that are pretty useless for most people’s second language study purposes. It is better to stick to the texts in your language learning books. When you have some grasp of the language you can move on to authentic texts. If you are learning the script of your target language, it is best to read short articles in pop magazines, famous short stories, or other short texts meant for adults. You should note vocabulary and be an active learner because just reading passively won’t help. But read, read, read as an active reader, and you will reap the benefits.</p>
<p>4. <strong><em>Traveling to the country where the language is spoken will make you learn the language. </em></strong>This only works if you actively try to learn the language while you are there. However, traveling will definitely speed up the learning process when you are actively making an effort. This is because you will be able to seek out situations in which you are forced to communicate in the language. But you have to study and know the rules or else you will get stuck speaking with very broken grammar. You can&#8217;t absorb grammar rules just by talking to people. You have to study them. But you can practice the rules you learn on the people you meet while abroad. Abroad you will have many practice opportunities and a lot more live modeling of speech. Your motivation will be higher. Meaningful communication will take place. So, you will learn very rapidly, especially if you have a high language learning aptitude. But don’t think that just by being there with no language study and no effort you will achieve anything. We all know people who have lived in a foreign country for years and, due to lack of interest and motivation, have learned very little. There are hundreds of thousands of non-native English speakers who have never been to an English-speaking country, but who are quite good in English. So going abroad is a great opportunity to learn, and it is a sure fire way to learn quickly if you make an effort.</p>
<p>5. <strong><em>Pronunciation is of major importance.</em></strong> You should try your best to have good pronunciation, but don’t worry about it too much. Pronunciation only matters when a bad accent is impeding communication. If the person you are speaking to can understand you, that’s all you need. Studies show the majority of people can’t attain a native speaker-like accent in a foreign language if they haven’t been exposed to the language before puberty. It is a big topic of study for neurolinguists. But having an accent in a foreign language won’t kill you. Think of people you know who speak English with foreign accents. Surely some of them are more articulate than you and have mastered the English language to a very high level of eloquence without sounding like they are native speakers. Your accent may bother some people, or sound jarring. There are many languages that aren’t studied very frequently by English speakers. So your foreign accent will sound very strange to native speakers of these languages. Just remember, swallow your language ego and say, “Who cares,” as long as people can understand you. You may have a hard time with certain sounds like trilled “r”. That doesn’t matter. What can help you is if you try to imitate the stress patterns, tones, and rhythm of the language more than try to pronounce individual sounds perfectly.</p>
<p>6. <strong><em>You can learn a language from a special book that promises to teach it in one month or some other short time.</em></strong> If that were true, we&#8217;d all just buy one of these books and be fluent right away. The truth is that language learning takes time and commitment. It involves study and practice. You can&#8217;t soak it up from a book, especially in a short period. Crash Course language programs are good to build on what you already know or review rusty language skills, but they are useless for beginners. Phrase books are also no good because they only encourage memorizing language &#8220;chunks&#8221; rather than understanding the grammar and vocabulary behind these chunks. Buy a phrase book to know what is said in specific situations, like greetings and so forth, but don&#8217;t expect to learn a language by memorizing isolated phrases.</p>
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